Starting to get the bug

I've been drooling over the teardrop camper for a few years now, but due to life being life, I haven't had the means to make it a reality.  Over the years, I've read up on stich and glue projects and realized I really don't have the skills to just jump into a teardrop camper project, and just a bit intimidated by trying to figure out how I'd get my butt in gear enough to start and finish the project!

So I decided to start small and build both my skill and confidence before I tackle the teardrop.  A couple weeks ago I bit the bullet and bought the plans for my first three projects:  a Kaholo 14, then an Oxford Shell, and finally a Chesapeak 18.  While my wood working skills are decent, working with fiberglass will be a new experience for me, so hopefully those projects will get me up to speed, and I can tackle the teardrop.  I know it's probably a little funny that I chose boats (which I coupld potentially sink in...ugh), over a nice safe camper that at worst I might just get a little damp in, but I do have a method to my madness.

First, I'd rather build smaller than large while getting used to working with the new materials.  Second, I want to not just make boats, but art.  I have a ton of ideas floating around my head for how to glam up my creations when I'm talking about low area canvas, but when it comes to something the size of the camper with that much visible area, my mind goes blank...ughh again!

Last, but not least, I can store the watercraft pretty easily...the camper not so much =/

Anyway, a funny thing happened along the way.  I fell in love with the Fearing Cruiser design, and I'm choping at the bit to get through the plans I already have in order to tackle that project now.  Once again, I have no place to put it once I made it though so I'll just drool from a distance until I get the experience under my belt first I think.  Then maybe one day...

So now that you know a little about me, I'll ask some questions and it wont be like someone off the street stopping you for directions lol

Anyway, the first questions I have will help me determine the order of prep work I tackle, and I'd really appreciate some guidance here.

1) Does anyone have any plans for the sling/cradles used to support the three projects I listed above?  I can cobble something up, if I have to, but would rather I had something to work from.  I'm looking for stable platforms to support my work.

2) When painting/decorating - is the order: epoxy-paint/fabric/onlay-epoxy-glass-varnish; or: epoxy-glass-paint/fabric/onlay-varnish?  I've searched you tube etc., but all I seem to pull up is vaneering/painting old glass boats so paint over glass then varnish.  To me that sounds like a good way to have your work get messed up over time.

I see in the manual you fabric before glassing on the kaholos, but is there a problem with delaminating if you glass over paint or vaneer work?

 

So any help would be appreciated.  Thanks for the patience of reading such a long post =)

 

BroknAngel,
Northern Virginia


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RE: Starting to get the bug

Welcome to the ward!  :-)

You never ever epoxy over paint or varnish. The order is always:

1. wood,

2, optional epoxy-compatible decorations (rice-paper graphics, wooden onlays, fabric, etc.),

3, epoxy/glass,

4. epoxy-compatible filler (epoxy, microballoons, etc. - depending on whether you're painting or varnishing),

5. finishing material (primer/paint, varnish, non-skid additives, etc.).

Have you seen the sawhorse plans in the Shop Tips?

If you haven't seen the actual boat, just the pictures, I'm planning on bringing my Faering Cruiser to Okoumefest.

Have fun,

Laszlo

 

 

RE: Starting to get the bug

Yep, Lazlo's advice is absolutely 100% what you want to pay attention to: never ever put any epoxy over any other kind of finishing material like paint or varnish.

As for the sawhorse design he referred to, here's a link to where that can be found elsewhere on CLC's website. Further down that same page is a variation using straps rather than a stiff crossmember at top, the better to accommodate hulls lacking in flat surfaces.

I'm going to be setting to making a pair of the hardtop version - maybe tomorrow; too darn cold here yet to work in garage - for my upcoming first-build stich'n'glue Waterlust kit. Have to start somewhere! 

RE: Starting to get the bug

Oh, forgot to ask: you're in N. Virginia? Ever consider taking one of CLC'S classes? That'd get you introduced to the various aspects of materials used and kit assembly with the added benefits of accessible experts as well as a ready support group from other, like-minded individuals!

I'd love the opportunity myself but time & distance conspire against it.   

RE: Starting to get the bug

Welcome!  Great advice above, as usual.  I made custom cradles by using the plans for the bulkheads and offsetting them by the thickness of the panels, then an offset for carpet.  They fit perfectly.

RE: Starting to get the bug

   Thanks for all the advice!

Laszlo - I'm looking forward to hitting up Okume fest.  I'd love to get a ride in the faering and chat about its construction.

spclark - Thanks for the link.  It'll save me some time trying to plan out a custom horse

To everyone - Once it gets pleasant enough to start working in my garage with the door open, expect to see some pictures of my builds =)

 

RE: Starting to get the bug

   I wish I had your problems. My first build was a Chesapeake 17. I felt confident enough after that to start a Guillemot strip-built kayak after that. (It was significantly harder but it came out beautiful!) by then I was skilled enough to design and build a redwood-strip camper shell for my pickup. Next I designed and built a teardrop trailer. It isn't nearly as slick  as CLC's but it probably cost a third as much. I'm about to start a Skerry. You will probably get the skills you need after the first build. CLC kits make it relatively easy.  Have fun and post some pictures. 

 

 

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