Wood Duck Hybrid 14: Deck Forms Are Too Tight

I need a little help here.  I'm building the Wood Duck Hybrid 14 from the kit and have completed the hull.  I am now installing the deck forms and they are fitting tight.  I believe too tight especially near the stern.  I'm trying to install number 10 which is just aft of the rear bulk head.  This one is pushing the sides out such that it alters the shape of the hull.  This will obviously cause problems and is not what I beleive was intended.  Litteraly all of the forms have been pushed into place spreeding the hull sides slightly but #10 is excessive.
I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this issue and what the solution is?  I believe by simply chamfering the edges of the form where they meet the side would provide enough relief to solve the problem.  The instructions indicate that the sides should have to be coaxed in to meet the form but I've not found that to be accurate.  

I'm also concerned that the deck is not going to fit properly once the forms are removed.  The sides are going to spring back inward when the form is removed and will not line up as well with the deck.

 

Anyone have thoughts on this?   

 

 

 

 


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RE: Wood Duck Hybrid 14: Deck Forms Are Too Tight

I'm building the WD12 hybrid from plans, I ran into the same thing. Not only did I have to chamfer the sides of the forms, some of them I cut an equal amount (1/8" or so) off each side to keep a fair curve on the hull. No harm in doing that. Even with that there was a slight bit of spring back in the cockpit area when I took the forms back out. When I glue the deck on I'll put a temporary spreader in to align the deck.

George K

RE: Wood Duck Hybrid 14: Deck Forms Are Too Tight

Thanks George.


I'm going to pull most of the forms and attempt to get a better fit.  I will likely have to trim #10 to get it to fit properly.  The others can probably be sanded to fit.

Anyone buidling the kit having an issue?

 

 

RE: Wood Duck Hybrid 14: Deck Forms Are Too Tight

   I suppose anything can happen, but CNC parts are typically very precise and the manuals also tend to be accurate. If I were you, I'd call CLC and get some professional advice. I've heard, though, that molding the Wood Duck's lovely curves can be a bit of a wrestling match.

RE: Wood Duck Hybrid 14: Deck Forms Are Too Tight

Birch2

The hull went together just fine.  The bow and stern are a little bit of a challenge, but everything lined up and fit together nicely.  I do not believe there has been any error in assembly.  I agree CNC routing is very precise but there will be variability in the hull.  It is unavoidable.  I just wasn't expecting  to have to modify the forms because like you said they are CNC cut.  I think trimming/sanding them to fit is the prefered solution.  Forcing the forms in will cause problems with deck assembly later in the build.  I believe it will work better to let the hull take the shape it wants to instead of having to spread it out again at assembly. 

 

RE: Wood Duck Hybrid 14: Deck Forms Are Too Tight

just a note that it is fairly common that the hull will need to be spread (pushed out) to acheive its design shape. 

that said, if you are pushing so aggresively that something is going to break or the hull is no longer fair.....then something needs to be adjusted.  also a little variation in hull width (for example an 1/8 of an inch per side) from the drawings can be accomodated without any problems.

but i would not agree that forcing the forms in to acheive the design shape (vs letting the hull take its natural shape) is a problem or causes undue difficulty when you need to attach the hull to the deck.   it is very common that a temporary spreader will be needed and strapping tape will be used to pull the deck and hull into alignment before glueing them together.  even when built together on the same forms, both the hull and deck almost always relax to a shape that varies from the forms and will need to be pulled together with a bit of muscle to get the deck and hull together.

h

 

 

RE: Wood Duck Hybrid 14: Deck Forms Are Too Tight

   You have two permanent bulkheads that are probably defining the shape of the hull. If forcing the forms distorts the hull shape from a fair curve you should shape them to fit or trim if necessary. I only have one bulkhead but it definitely defined the shape amidships. Hspira says "but i would not agree that forcing the forms in to acheive the design shape (vs letting the hull take its natural shape) is a problem or causes undue difficulty when you need to attach the hull to the deck." Agree. 
 

Have fun!

George K

RE: Wood Duck Hybrid 14: Deck Forms Are Too Tight

Thanks enveryone for confirming my thoughts on this.  A few of the forms were definately pushing the sides out too much.  I was able to use a wrasp to get a better fit.  I still think #10 behind the aft bulkhead pushes the sides out more than I'd like but it sounds like this can be somewhat expected.  Prior to modifying them several forms had to be pushed into place with so much force you could not hold them in place to hot glue without them popping up.

All the forms are installed and ready for strips.  I shall begin that today.

 

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