My first sailing experience was in 1959 in San Diego. A friend of mine (we were 10 years old ) took me out in his Sabet, or Sabot, I don't really remember much except I think it was sloop rigged and had very similar lines to the CLC pram. Two years later I lived in Hawaii and my best friend had a El Toro. It was also sloop rigged, 8' long and very similar to the CLC pram.. We sailed the El Toro all over Kailua and Kaneohe Bays, sometimes in some pretty heavy waves. We sailed out to Rabbit Island all the time for overnight camping. Are there any old salts out there who remember these boats or is the basic design common and prevelent?